Talking with Wilson...
TALKING WITH WILSON
The Davis/Wilson notes (aka the Wilson Leak) still continue to cause high controversy across the UFO field. Researches on different podcast shows are discussing and debating the topic from a variety of different corners, theories and interpretations. During a recent review of the affair, I noticed the new lead and invested some resources to follow it. However, that lead turned out to be just an ordinary dead end. I still produced some research material while working on it, and I thought it would be useful to share it. So, this unbiased piece should serve just as a historical record of the affair. I collected recollections from 3 colleagues how their telephone discussions went with retired Vice Admiral Thomas R. Wilson. I think it will be fascinating – or at least interesting – to get an insight into these engagements.
Back on August 06, 2008 journalist Billy Cox published his historic article “Admiral: Never looked for UFO data” where Wilson confirmed his 1997 Pentagon meeting with astronaut Edgar Mitchell and activist Steven Greer. However, he denied subsequent search for the hidden UFO SAP cell. The next day – August 07, 2008 – prominent UFO researcher Richard Dolan sent his recollection to my private mailing list of his telephone call with Wilson. At the time Dolan gave me permission to forward that email further. Prior to that telephone call, he had his own source who gave him some explicit information about the nature of the 1997 Pentagon meeting. Dolan learned it took Wilson two months to locate the UFO program, and that he was allegedly denied access to it. Dolan was able to track down and phone Wilson on October 2006 to discuss the matter.
Dolan recalls how the discussion went.
On July 27, 2020, I was alerted about the new article on the Davis/Wilson notes. The piece is titled “Is there a secret US defense program studying captured alien technology?”. It was published by the Australian journalist Matthew Eaton on that day. In the article Matt mentioned he tracked down Admiral Wilson on the telephone and received a flat-out denial that 2002 conversation with Eric Davis took place. I was fascinated by this detail. I decided to reach out to Matt and learn more about the call. He replied to me on July 28, 2020.
Matt recalls about his June 2019 telephone discussion.
Matt emphasized he immediately added the quotes from the conversation to the first draft of the story.
On June 15, 2020, Sarasota Herald-Tribune journalist Billy Cox published his famous article “Eric who? — the Admiral”. Twelve years have passed after his previous article on the Wilson affair. Billy was able to talk with admiral again. Wilson denied 2002 meeting with Eric Davis in Las Vegas, which caused a new wave of debates about the affair. I am following Billy’s work from his Florida Today days and have corresponded with him for more than a decade. I reached out to Billy regarding his article. On July 28, 2020 he sent me his detailed recollection on the telephone call with Wilson.
I am aware of additional details that occurred during these calls, but this piece – as noted - only deals with the chronological recollection of involved parties. There were other journalists who reached out and talked with Wilson during the 2019-2020 period. Those discussions are not publicly available at this moment. However, I don’t doubt that at some point more details will be part of the public record.
Rare audio interview with Vice Admiral Thomas R. Wilson - published on June 09, 2001 - can provide insight into his fascinating career. Interview covers innovative approaches and management challenges during his position as the DIA director. Wilson was interviewed by Paul Lawrence for the IBM Center for The Business of Government.
August 02, 2020
ALL ARTICLES ON THE WILSON LEAK
June 6, 2020 - The Wilson Leak and the NIDS Connection
July 5, 2020 - Edgar Mitchell's Emails
July 8, 2020 - Encounter in Las Vegas
July 11. 2020 - Independent Corroboration
July 22. 2020 - Subtle Wilson Leak References Found in Vallee’s Novel
August 2, 2020 - Talking with Wilson...
October 7, 2020 - Edgar Mitchell on Audio: "One of my other colleagues encountered this admiral in Las Vegas."
August 9, 2021 - Wilson vs Shannon
May 24, 2022 - The Wilson/Davis Notes Back in the Forefront / Brandon Fugal's Tweets on W/D Notes
June 5, 2022 - Dr. John Alexander Replies to Jonathan Davies on the Wilson/Davis Notes...
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